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"Buffy" and "Angel"
Two of the best shows ever
Published on March 13, 2005 By
Ionolast
In
Entertainment
Why we still love them. Favorite episodes, favorite lines, favorite characters. Your age. (Don't be afraid. I'm 50).
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Dusk411
on Mar 13, 2005
I love this topic! I could be here for awhile
Favorite Buffy Episodes:
Angel (S1).
Passion (S2)
Revelations (S3)
The Wish (S3)
Who Are You? (S4)
The Yoko Factor (S4)
Primevel (S4)
Buffy vs. Dracula (S5)
The Body (S5)
Forever (S5)
Selfless (S7)
Lies My Parents Told Me (S7)
Potential (S7)
Storyteller (S7)
Chosen (S7)
Season 6 is my favorite season. I'm not even going to go into favorite episodes for that reason. I just like the season as a whole.
I really did enjoy the last two seasons of Buffy even though those are the most hated. I think Buffy's speechifying should've been cut in half and I find myself rooting for Faith during the latter half. I'll post more later. Otherwise, my post will become a novel.
(and I"m in my 20s).
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mada_ecks
on Mar 13, 2005
I really love all the seasons of "Buffy" and am mostly a fan of the first two seasons of "Angel".
My favoite characters are Angel, Spike,Giles, the alternate world Willow, Gunn, and Doyle even though he only lasted a few episodes.
I have to admit, I like Angel more when he is Angelus, his evil side is pretty cool.
But my all-time fav (next to Buffy) is Faith (5x5, baby)
I didn't really get into the "Buffy"-verse until I was 20, I'm 24 for now and am glad for syndication, got to have my Buffy fix every-now-and-then.
Reply by Dusk 411:
"I really did enjoy the last two seasons of Buffy even though those are the most hated."
The last two seasons seemed a mirror of the last few seasons of the X-files. I liked a few of the episodes, and even the last few that involved the collection of slayers and the destruction of the Hell-mouth once a for all. I myself didn't really hate them. Just seemed to me like some of the episodes were more depressing than the earlier ones.
-mx-
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Ionolast
on Mar 14, 2005
I even like "Beer Bad". No, there wasn't any slaying, but it was very funny. When Buffy threw the fire extinguisher, then couldn't understand why it didn't work. Also "Hush". Scary and funny. In Giles' presentation. "How do we kill them?" Buffy made the stabbing gestures. Then she was upset about the size of her hips in the drawing Giles made of her. "Anne". When she spun around on the post. She would make a good stripper. lol. As for "Angel", I especially like the final season. Illyria was funny. "I've been hitting the half-breed. He makes noises".
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Dusk411
on Mar 14, 2005
mada_ecks wrote:
...and even the last few that involved the collection of slayers and the destruction of the Hell-mouth once a for all.
"Chosen" had a lot of my favorite moments: Giles, Buffy, Willow, & Xander talking about not how they are going to conquer it but what they plan on doing afterwards. Then, Giles says "The earth is doomed...again" when they leave for their posts. The reference to the pilot is what makes the scene.
I thought they redeemed Faith really well at the end of the series. She was still tough and cocky at times but had mellowed considerably. I was glad to see her back for the final arc of the show.
Favorite characters: Giles, Faith, Angel, Anya, & Cordelia.
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Ionolast
on Mar 14, 2005
"We destroyed the mall? I fought on the wrong side." hahahaha.
Angel likes Barry Manilow. lol
Other great episodes: "The Gift", "Bargaining 1 & 2", "Fool for Love". The Chinese Slayer's grace was awesome. "Seeing Red", "Two to Go", "Grave." All the episodes of "Angel" with Faith.
Who got tired of major characters dying? Anya, Cordelia, Wesley, Fred (although it was sort of like she was still alive.)
My favorite characters: Anya, Dawn, Willow, Wesley, Cordelia, Fred, Giles, Druscilla, Darla.
When Dru had the puppy and tried to get Spike to feed on it. "Open Wide." BUZZZZZZZ. lmao!
Do you know about www.slayage.tv.? Great site.
Two good books: "Reading the Vampire Slayer" and "Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Philosophy: Fear and Trembling in Sunnydale".
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Moderateman
on Mar 23, 2005
I am a huge angel and buffy freak and been so long time. I was shocked to see that cordelia {charisma carpenter} was really the glue that held angel together. MY wife has the hots for spike {james marsters} and I would love rocking faiths world {eliza dushku}
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Moderateman
on Mar 23, 2005
side note for those that care... in real life westly and willow are a married couple.
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Dusk411
on Mar 23, 2005
Moderateman
Re: about Cordy holding Angel together
Deftinely! Cordelia grew as a character while on Angel. She was able to defend herself and was no longer comic relief. After watching Angel, I became a fan of Cordelia (whereas in Buffy, I didn't like her much at all.)
Iconclast: I'm going to check out slayage.tv. sometime The philosphiscal criticisms is what made me appreciate S4 so much more (and turned it into one my favorite seasons).The discussions of the group dynamics, feminism, etc. made me aware of the larger concepts going on. I learned a lot from reading some of those.
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Ionolast
on Mar 23, 2005
The discussions of the group dynamics, feminism, etc. made me aware of the larger concepts going on. I learned a lot from reading some of those.
Those two books I named have a lot of that kind of thing.
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foreverserenity
on Mar 24, 2005
ide note for those that care... in real life westly and willow are a married couple.
I know and I'm glad they're still together! They make such a cute couple!
Buffy and Angel, I could go on and on about these two. I've been a fan since the beginning when Angel was on Buffy and loved the Angel spinoff even more. Too many favourite episodes to list them. Infact, I loved them all on both shows. I think they were all very good, even when the critics didn't like the shows anymore. I hated the fact that Angel had to leave UPN but was just as good on the WB!
My favourite characters? I loved them all. Giles, Buffy, Angel, Wesley, Cordelia...who went from rich, pain in the ass to the warrior she became on Angel (in my own words of course!). She was really a key character in Angel and it was too bad when she was "killed" off. Anya, was always so hilarious with her sarcastic and "innocent" comments. She was a hoot!
I've been hoping that there would really be a movie to tie the two together again and give me that fix that I've soooo missed! But it's always good to catch them on reruns.
Plus I've always had a mad crush on David Boreaznaz (I know I probably spelt is last name wrong!). He was so good as Angel, dark and brooding and lover of Barry Manilow (whose music I'm not afraid to say I love)! I even had the screen savers on my computer of both Angel and Buffy!
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Ionolast
on Mar 24, 2005
I also like Harmony. When she threw the rock through Buffy's window with the note attached saying, "Slayer come out and die." And the dot over the i was a happy face. When she said to Spike, "Can we eat a doctor so I can get his stethoscope and hear my heart not beating?"
I read that WB wants to do a movie, but Sarah Michelle Gellar and David Boreanaz are busy with other things, so the network wants the movie to feature Spike. James Marsters said he's willing as long as filming starts in the next few years. "Beyond that", he said, "I'm too old."
Matt Roush, critic with TV Guide liked both shows until the end. "....creativity is an endangered TV commodity, with contrived reality trumping the most inspired fantasies. Much of the mail I've received expresses fear that the networks have given up on shows that stimulate the imagination. That's why these people are so forecfully mourning the end of Joss Whedon's wild world of apocalypse and redemption."
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Ionolast
on Apr 10, 2005
"Watchers: The Virtual Series"
Link
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eventide82
on Apr 10, 2005
Too many favourites to mention: First, though, I prefer to Buffy to Angel.
Fave episodes:
Becoming Pt 1 & 2 (great speeches)
Season 3 finale
Hush (those Gentlemen never fail to freak me out)
Once More with Feeling
Tabula Rasa
Storyteller (Andrew needs his own spin off. Seriously)
Chosen.
I could go on, but it's too early on Monday morning to recall more specific details....By the way, I'm 23 and I've been with Buffy since the beginning. It never gets old.
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Ionolast
on Apr 10, 2005
Thanks, eventide82. I like Buffy better than Angel too. Buffy had more humor, but I think the final season of Angel had a lot of funny moments. And with Spike and Harmony joining the show, Faith and Willow is some episodes, it partly made up for no more Buffy.
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Ionolast
on Apr 29, 2005
You Know You're Addicted to Buffy When...
You look at pieces of wood, deciding if they would make good stakes
You decide that you will only see your boyfriend at night and in the graveyard.
"A happy slayer is a good slayer" becomes your motto.
You have the whole collection of Buffy T-shirts.
But you won't wear them - you want to keep them in mint condition.
You've taken up karate and practice your Buffy moves regularly.
You refuse to go out after dark... just in case.
You have suddenly taken a liking to tweed.
You start calling your boyfriend "Angel".
You prefer to watch
Buffy
alone because other people just "don't get it".
You find yourself quoting the show several times a day.
You go shopping for clothes and only purchase things that have appeared on the show.
You always say the words "the wacky", "wiggins" and "a happy".
All your user names on the internet are "Willow".
You start hanging around libraries.
You love to hack into the coroners office.
You have either a cross necklace or a Claddaugh ring.
You decide the graveyard is really cool hangout.
You look at abandoned warehouses in a whole new light.
You never invite anyone into your house after dark.
You find yourself in a situation and say, "This is something Xander would do."
You are secretly in love with your best friend.
Your licence plates read "Queen C".
You think, "Too much
Buffy
? Never!".
You name your puppy Willow or Xander.
You recite Amy's rat-turning spell when in the company of your older brother.
You demand that people call you Buffy.
Every time you step out of the shower you say, "I seem to be having an extreme case of nudity."
You appoint yourself a watcher and choose someone to study/train, etc.
You stay away from your teacher just in case they turn out to be a praying mantis.
Your room looks like a shrine. You have
Buffy
posters as wallpaper, a
Buffy
bedspread, curtains, etc.
You won't take cookies or mini pizzas from your Mom's new boyfriend.
You find a whole new liking for miniture golf.
You hear that song "I hope you dance" and think of fighting Faith.
You cried two hours after the fifth season finale of
Buffy
was over because she died even though you knew she was coming back.
You pondered becoming a vengance demon after your last breakup.
You own enough
Buffy
comics and novels to have your bedroom be considered a fire hazard.
You won't go out past sunset unless armed to the teeth with stakes, crosses and holy water.
You have crosses nailed over every window and door.
You start tracking the local murder rates after a new girl moves into town.
You read all the occult books in the school library searching for the Watcher diaries.
To you, sexual protection isn't birth control, it's making sure your partner is human.
You practice sticking thumbtacks through houseflies and mosquitos--"Just to be safe."
You perform the reverse invitation spell after every visit from some person you haven't recently seen in sunlight.
You insist on traveling from class to class via the ceiling.
You try to exorcise the possessing hyena spirit when your best friend gets PMS.
You cast a gypsy soul curse on the sadistic principal who gave you a suspension.
You whittle wooden stakes.
You kick doors open.
You carry around a stake, just in case.
You take long walks in the cemetery at night.
You have a strange fear of hospitals.
You don't complain about going to church anymore because you remember that your supply of holy water is running kind of low.
You wear crosses every day and have a vast selection of them.
You never verbally invite anyone into your home.
You keep all your important information on yellow disks.
You avoid fraternity parties.
As a rule you don't like to be surprised.
Your friends are fearful that if they call during the "Buffy Hour" they'll be in for a long lecture the next day.
You bookmark the Coroner's Office Web Site as a favorite place.
When you hear that there's a new librarian at your school, you slam open the doors of the library and yell, "Okay, what's the sitch?"
You can recite whole
Buffy
episodes.
You wallpaper your room with pictures of the
Buffy
cast and complain when there isn't enough space to put them all up.
You ask a priest to bless your bottle of Perrier.
Just for the hell of it, you enter Moloch into several search engines.
You name your doll Miss Edith.
You let your bird die of starvation.
You paint your nails like Drusilla.
When your brother comes back from the zoo, you won't let him into the house.
The only way you know how to say the word "bitch" is "bitca".
You get your hair cut like Buffy's and your hairdresser keeps remarking that the picture you show her (for your haircut) looks oddly familiar.
Whenever you quote Buffy Verse, you laugh hysterically while your friends stare at you like you've grown another ear.
You always protest that Buffy is NOT a ditz's name.
When watching a new
Buffy
episode, people gawk at you when you manage to say the actor's lines right before they do.
You can't think of a thing to talk about with people who have never watched a
Buffy
episode.
You spend hours on the net looking for new Buffy pictures.
You get really, really excited whenever you do find any new pictures.
You sit on a grave twirling a yo-yo and say, "Come on, rise and shine. Some of us have a ton of trig homework waiting at home."
You look for padlocked sewer access systems in mausoleums.
You decide to be Buffy for Halloween, but your friends don't notice a change.
You own everything possible with the words "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" on them.
You get wigged out by mimes and dummies.
You have a chest in your room with a fake bottom that contains garlic, stakes, holy water and crosses.
You freak whenever you have a substitute biology teacher.
You never go out with your boyfriend on the night of the full moon.
You avoid supposedly empty warehouses.
You have a fear of railroad spikes.
You punish your dolls.
You get a wheelchair just so that you can be called "Roller Boy".
You never have sex with your boyfriend for fear of what might happen to him.
You take up Tae Kwon Do, kick boxing, Karate, street fighting and gymnastics.
You eye your librarian to see if they're trying to tell you that you're the next Slayer.
You sleep with a stake under your pillow.
You sneak out of your bedroom window at night and hang out at the park because you've heard that several people have died there lately of exsanguination.
You're horrified of people who have never even heard of
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
.
You want to kill people who dis the show.
You dream of past lives as a Slayer.
Whenever you have a dream and you see your friend in it, you run up to them the next day and choke them as you shout, "What do you know?"
You never sign in someone's yearbook "Have a nice summer!"
You don't like to use the word "Master".
You write
Buffy
FanFic.
You date men whom you meet in dark alleys (but only after kicking them in the head).
You take a fire extinguisher to cheerleading tryouts.
You get nominated at school as "Person Most Likely to be the Next Slayer".
You buy knee-high boots.
You get five holes pierced in each ear.
You're on a first name basis with all the actors of
BtVS
, except that you've never met them.
Though they used to appreciate your interest, the actors on
BtVS
are now scared to death of you.
You check people's lockers to make sure they don't have any books such as 'Gray's Anatomy' and 'Mortician Desk Reference'.
You read a
Buffy
transcript at least once a day.
You befriend a computer genius and her dorky friend.
You file complaints that the substitute biology teacher is harassing you.
When asked what your hobbies are you answer; "Slay...slay...slave to the television."
As far as you're concerned, Buffy and Co. are actual people.
You drive to California to look for Sunnydale. You dial the operator and ask him where it is The operator says there is no such place and you yell back at him that he's probably in league with some demons to keep you out of Sunnydale.
You enroll at Torrance High School.
All the actors on the show are shown a picture of you and are told to stay away at all costs.
When asked what you'll do when you're older you answer either, '"Dead" or 'It's already been sealed in fate."
You tape all
Buffy
episodes, then retape them so they're in chronological order.
You buy all the CDs of songs that have ever been on
Buffy
.
You've been to all 1000 or so
Buffy
sites on the net.
You legally change your name to Buffy Anne Summers (or another character from the show).
You practically had a nervous breakdown when the show ended.
You cannot remember what you did with your life before
Buffy
.
Your motto is either "Life is short" or "Seize the day".
You never take your date to the morgue.
When buying your Halloween costume you make sure it's something you'd like to be in real life.
You always beat up a snitch.
You nail crucifixes to your wall.
You needed to visit a grief counselor when Tara died.
You make sure your parents never go to Parent-Teacher night at school.
You watch, mock and laugh at talent shows.
When given an egg for parenting in Sex Ed class, you either boil it or smash it with something heavy.
You're frightened of cheerleader wannabes.
You avoid saunas. Who knows what they put in the steam?
You don't let people with long fingernails get too close to your throat.
You use a Thesulan Orb as a paperweight.
Whenever there's a Sadie Hawkins dance at school you lock yourself in your room.
You refuse to buy any candy being sold by the band at school.
You actually get these jokes and pass them on to friends who are addicted to
Buffy
.
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