More Dangerous Stupidity From the Religious Right

THIS is why I attack Christianity

Published on October 9, 2005 By Ionolast In Misc

Last night on Fox News' Heartland, John Kasich interviewed Senator Hank Erwin (R-Al.), starting with this written statement:

"New Orleans and the Mississippi Gulf Coast have always been known for gambling, sin and wickedness...it is the kind of behavior that ultimately brings the judgement of God." - Weekly Newspaper Column 9/30/05.

Kasich: "Don't you think you're driving people away from religion? I know you're not trying to do that, but don't you think it has the opposite effect?"

Erwin: "It's according to what your heart is saying. If your heart is humble and you have the lord using a message to send along to America we need to wake up. Your heart will respond in humility saying, "Lord, whatever it takes, begin with me to do what's right.
If your heart is hard, you'll turn away. I can't define what men do, I can only say what God would be honored with."

He actually believes he can read God's mind.

He and anyone who agrees with him should do the world a favor and kill themselves.

No wonder the Ancient Romans threw Christians to the lions."

Comments (Page 4)

Dr Guy

on Oct 10, 2005

we'll run out of reasons why our claim that Christians deserved to be thrown to lions wasn't bigoted.

There is always the last resort - there are some good christians, and some bad christians.

Dr Guy

on Oct 10, 2005

I look nothing like a german Jew.

let me guess. You dont have blond hair?

bakerstreet

on Oct 10, 2005

"Maybe the last two sentences in the body of the article were made solely in anger, but Jewish is a race as well as a religion."

MMkay,then. Let say someone said "Why don't all those homosexuals do the world a favor and kill themselves. No wonder Hitler killed so many of them." Is that better, since homosexuality isn't a race? Would that be more palatable to you? What about "those muslims?"

The teeny bit of self-reflection is appreciated, even though it didn't amount to anything. Keep whittling at your article and all you'll end up with is you railing at someone because of their religious beliefs. If this Senator acted on those beliefs in some way, then by all means give him (not the entire religion) hell. Until he proves himself to be "dangerous" how about giving him the benefit of the doubt.

This is akin to people who don't want anyone with a dedicated religious background to be supreme court justices. It might be "dangerous." I'm thinking that maybe we should judge people by their actions, and not their beliefs, and not lump hundreds of millions of people in with them when they say something we don't like, just because they base their religion on the same book.

That's what we are told to do with Muslims. How about giving Christians the same benefit?

Moderateman

on Oct 10, 2005

53 by BakerStreet
Monday, October 10, 2005

Maybe the last two sentences in the body of the article were made solely in anger, but Jewish is a race as well as a religion."

MMkay,then. Let say someone said "Why don't all those homosexuals do the world a favor and kill themselves. No wonder Hitler killed so many of them." Is that better, since homosexuality isn't a race? Would that be more palatable to you? What about "those

cannot answer for Icon, but I have been jumped here more than once for including all democrats in a rant, when all I ment was liberals.

For me I try not to use to broad a brush.

Ionolast

on Oct 10, 2005

Link

"The word Jew (Hebrew: éäåãé) is used in a wide number of ways, but generally refers to a follower of the Jewish faith, a child of a Jewish mother, or someone of Jewish descent with a connection to Jewish culture or ethnicity; and often a combination of these attributes. This article discusses the term as describing an ethnic group; for a consideration of Jewish religion, please refer to Judaism.
Most Jews regard themselves as a people, members of a nation, descended from the ancient Israelites and those who joined their religion at various times and places."

Link

"An ethnic group is a culture or subculture whose members are readily distinguishable by outsiders based on traits originating from a common racial, national, linguistic, or religious source. Members of an ethnic group are often presumed to be culturally or biologically similar, although this is not in fact necessarily the case."

Ionolast

on Oct 10, 2005

Just curious as to what characteristics you are referring to.

Big noses, and don't give me any crap about being a bigot.

"You know what? Jews DO have big noses. Look at mine and I'm only half Jewish." - Bill Maher

Ionolast

on Oct 10, 2005

That's what we are told to do with Muslims.

Only because it's politically correct.

Dr Guy

on Oct 10, 2005

Big noses, and don't give me any crap about being a bigot.

"You know what? Jews DO have big noses. Look at mine and I'm only half Jewish." - Bill Maher

I dont have to give you crap about being a bigot, You do that well yourself and especially quoting one.

bakerstreet

on Oct 10, 2005

So you think it is political correctness when someone opts not to paint an entire group with the sins of a few? Odd, that seems to be what you are condemning Erwin of NOT doing and calling it dangerous.

Do you consider your own lack of political correctness dangerous, especially considering you seem to express the idea the world would be better without all the people who agree with him, and laud as reasonable the wholesale killing of people for their religious beliefs?

Ionolast

on Oct 10, 2005

I dont have to give you crap about being a bigot, You do that well yourself and especially quoting one.

Half-breed.

bakerstreet

on Oct 10, 2005

"Half-breed."

'nuff said, I think.

Dr Guy

on Oct 10, 2005

'nuff said, I think.

Liberal PC on display.

Moderateman

on Oct 10, 2005

regard themselves as a people

regard, does not make it fact, coupled with the annoying way Jews identify themselves ask 4 people what are you you will get one saying I am Irish, one Italian, one German and the other will say I am Jewish.

I am a Turk {Turkish} My religion is judaism {jew}

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