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Or: The Uptight Morons Always Get Their Way
Published on November 15, 2006 By Ionolast In Current Events
Emily Gillette, 27, of Santa Fe, N.M., filed the complaint with the Vermont Human Rights Commission late last week against Delta Air Lines and Freedom Airlines, said her attorney, Elizabeth Boepple. Freedom was operating the Delta flight between Burlington and New York City.

Gillette said she was discreetly breast-feeding her 22-month-old daughter on Oct. 13 as their flight prepared to leave Burlington International Airport. She said she was seated by the window in the next-to-last row, her husband was seated between her and the aisle and no part of her breast was showing.

A flight attendant tried to hand her a blanket and told her to cover up, Gillette said. She declined, telling the flight attendant she had a legal right to breast-feed her baby.

Moments later, a Delta ticket agent approached and said the flight attendant had asked that the family be removed from the flight, Gillette said. She said she didn't want to make a scene and complied.

"A breast-feeding mother is perfectly acceptable on an aircraft, providing she is feeding the child in a discreet way,"that doesn't bother others, said Paul Skellon, spokesman for Phoenix-based Freedom

In a discreet way that doesn't bother others? What others, uptight religious assholes? I am so sick of the immature attitude about the human body in this country. It wasn't even a sexual thing.

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on Nov 15, 2006
Iconoclast:
You're saying there are prudes who don't base their opinions on religion?


If there were a religious connection stated in the story, I'd have just let it go... but there wasn't. It was simply you interjecting your own distain for religious people where it didn't belong.

Sure, I know a lot of religious people who have a problem with women diplaying their breasts in public, I also know a lot of atheists and agnostics who do to. So what does religion (or lack of) have to do with any of it?
on Nov 15, 2006
Sure, I know a lot of religious people who have a problem with women diplaying their breasts in public, I also know a lot of atheists and agnostics who do to. So what does religion (or lack of) have to do with any of it?


On what do the atheists and agnostics base their disapproval?


on Nov 15, 2006
On what do the atheists and agnostics base their disapproval?


You seem to be implying here that atheists and agnostics do not have any sort of moral standards or social sensibilities. I would have to disagree as they obviously do.

Why does everything have to be about religion? Looking for every opportunity to knock religion, even if the topic has nothing to do with it, is just as absurd and obsessive as those people who seek every opportunity to interject religion even when the topic has nothing to do with it. Two sides of the same zealot coin.

As to the actual topic, I have to wonder if the lady was really being all that discreet. If she had been she wouldn't likely have attracted the attention of the flight attendant. Either way, a woman does have the right to breastfeed her child. But she should try to respect the feelings of others at the same time. While it wouldn't bother me at all, some people would feel uncomfortable with it for whatever reason.

This may well be one of those cases where both sides were at least partly in the wrong.
on Nov 15, 2006
I am a religious person, and my wife breastfed on a plane. Worked out well, kept the baby from screaming. I bet she was being completely discreet. But that's beside the point. She has the legal right to breastfeed her baby. If the stewardess has a problem with that, she can go eat her lunch with a blanket over her head. And Delta and Freedom and the stewardess should have to pay out the butt to make up for taking away her right... but more importantly, for the interruption of a toddler's meal!
on Nov 15, 2006
Reply #19
I am a religious person, and my wife breastfed on a plane. Worked out well, kept the baby from screaming. I bet she was being completely discreet.


See, that's exactly what makes me wonder about "the rest of the story". Women breastfeed infants on planes all of the time. I suspect that there is more to this than the face value of the news article.
on Nov 15, 2006
Flight attendants give people hard times all the time. One gave my wife a hard time because she wanted her car seat backwards in the seat. Is there a reason it should be the other way? I doubt it. So she made one up...
on Nov 15, 2006
People need to relax about the breast feeding issue. If you're religous then I would think you approve of woman feeding their baby the way God intended. God didn't make bottles and formula. He did make breast milk and it is the perfect food for your baby. I agree that breast feeding mothers should use discretion and I honestly have never seen a breast feeding mother who didn't. It's not a show, it's about feeding your baby.
on Nov 15, 2006
I breast fed my kids on planes lots of times.

I used a great baby blanket with a latch for just this purpose, and everyone was comfortable.

There are so many variables here. Was any skin showing? What kind of tone did the stewardess use? I know from traveling and chatting with stewardesses that some of them DREAD babies (because you never know when one will scream the whole flight). So maybe seeing the kid put her in a bad mood so she was snotty with the mom. And the mom told her to well, you know.

Who knows.
on Nov 15, 2006
You seem to be implying here that atheists and agnostics do not have any sort of moral standards or social sensibilities.


I'm saying if someone isn't religious, they shouldn't be so concerned about things that religious people would consider obscene.

This may well be one of those cases where both sides were at least partly in the wrong.


Yeah, maybe the attendant saw what was going on before anyone else. Maybe it wasn't about an exposed breast, maybe she was only trying to get the woman to abide by the rules.

If you're religous then I would think you approve of woman feeding their baby the way God intended.


Yeah, but there's that whole obscenity thing.

on Nov 16, 2006
I wouldn't want to have a filthy airline blanket near my mouth while I'm eating. I'm not sure why anyone thinks that's a reasonable solution to the breastfeeding "problem".

I breastfed my youngest in public, as was my right. I never used blankets or "hooter hiders" as I felt those drew far more attention to what I was doing than NOT using them. I never got any negative comments, but I can tell you this...if someone had a problem with it, TS.

Wherever it is lawful for mother and child to be, it is lawful to BF. No restrictions are placed on how it must be done.

People are free to look away. Or not. Whatever.

I'm not one to just pop a boob out in public, but if that's what it takes to get baby to latch on well, so be it. Anyone who watches television, movies, or reads magazines has seen far more scandalous things BY CHOICE.

I'm due next week, and I'll be BFing my new baby wherever we happen to be. I plan to print out my state's laws regarding BFing in public and keep a laminated copy with me so that idiot clerks and others like the flight attendant in the news story can see that they have no right to impose discretion or modesty on me or any other BFing mother.

on Nov 16, 2006
Iconoclasts:
I'm saying if someone isn't religious, they shouldn't be so concerned about things that religious people would consider obscene.


What a stupid thing to say!!

So I guess you teach your daughters that it's ok to run around naken... because only religious people teach against public nudity.
on Nov 16, 2006
Anyone who watches television, movies, or reads magazines has seen far more scandalous things BY CHOICE.


Can I get an amen?  

So I guess you teach your daughters that it's ok to run around naken... because only religious people teach against public nudity.


What makes you think I have daughters? You still haven't answered my question in post #17. I can't answer you until you do.
on Nov 16, 2006
I'm saying if someone isn't religious, they shouldn't be so concerned about things that religious people would consider obscene.


Why?
on Nov 16, 2006
Why?


Because they consider some natural things to be obscene.
on Nov 17, 2006
I plan to print out my state's laws regarding BFing in public and keep a laminated copy with me


any chance of gettin a special illustrated edition?
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